Bhagvad Gita predicts a similar cosmos creation but the God has a role to play here :)
In fact it is mentioned in Gita exactly when the laws of physics come into existence, therefore , it seems that it is theoretically impossible for physics to prove the existence of God. What it can do at most is hinted in the Grand Design.
Though it is spiritually possible to prove the existence of a God (or demi God as per Jainism, that's a different story. Jainism does not believe in a creator. If you study carefully , the Jain and Bhagvad Gita theories are like two different sides of a coin - one has to apply anekantavada ).
I list down some Bhagvad Gita shlokas (from Chapter 9) which mention about universe and its creation:
1.Chapter 9 Verse 7 , Krishna says [Sanskrit]
[English Translation] - In the beginning of time or KALPA , I create everything and at the end of time KALPA, the whole creation merge in me. By my will the whole universe is created & annihilated again and again
2. Chapter 9 Verse 10 , Krishna says [Sanskrit]
[English Translation] - Superintended by Me, the illusionary external energy manifest all living and non - living entities; for this reason O Arjuna, the universal manifestation is created repeatedly.
Another book Bhagvad Purana mentions creation of world in details [http://vedabase.net/sb/en].
One of the most famous pictures is that of infinite universes (from M-theory it would be 10 to the power of 500) emanating from Lord Vishnu.
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Stephen Hawking states that the universe can create itself out of nothing without the requirement of the GOD. The same Stephen Hawking went to school to learn A, B, C D. Why not he went school to learn various subject, the education could have come to him out of nothing.
ReplyDeleteWhat if universe is the God.
Deleteuniverse can't be a and God, because, God is described as the super intelligent, conscious mind who controls each and everything of the universe. Other properties possessed by the God are omnipotence, omnipresence and omniscience which as you can see, which is not habitable by the universe. As a result, only the very final conclusion left is to "accept - God". No can be independent, in this universe and hence, accept God.
DeleteYour Dr. Stephen hawking may had read and proposed many scientific claims, but those illogical stuff can never be enough to deny the acceptance of God.
And I will see how you reply this message, and I will wait for it.
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ReplyDeleteanybody remained with any doubts now?
ReplyDeleteNobody's salvation is dependent on whether God exists or not. Unless the inner nature of who we are is experienced, everything related to creator or no-creator is a story. We can only merge into the source of creation, we cannot know it or define it. Source can be intelligence or energy or God or XYZ, it does not matter. There is no creator of the souls or beings, creation is eternal, manifestation is cyclical and based on physical law. Everything manifests from nothing and then then merges back into nothing.
Deletesee yourself bro, you have accepted it automatically that we can't know the source of creation or define the source of creation. right? because you all have imperfect knowledge in the sense, incomplete knowledge, you all can be considered as a frog who doesn't know the depth of the ocean other than its native well.
ReplyDeleteHow can you say that there is no creator of the souls or beings? And i would like to laugh at you, because you are just talking the nonsense, as, you have mentioned that "everything manifests from nothing and then merges back into nothing", watch, this statement nullifies itself, yeah, this statement could be true for a mentally disabled person, because he doesn't know or understand the basic logic.
Same as that, all the people, like you, has not the most basic logical knowledge, which is - Spiritual Knowledge.
Try to understand the logic, bro, i am not slandering you, i was just explaining the fundamental causes of the universe.
Thanks!
We cannot know source because we are it - we can only experience that. You should really read more, especially Samkhya Philosophy & other similar concepts. There can be no creator of souls because souls are part of creator. It's air bubbles floating, poof one and the what looks like bubble is air again. Essentially the air in bubble and outside bubble are same. Creation has no logic. It's just there. With perfect knowledge, you can create another universe. If you haven't do read how Sage Vishwamitra could do this. On the other part zero and infinite are same. So manifestation from nothing and merging into nothing does not need any explanation. If that sounds illogical, you should do yoga and experience the oneness. There is no cause for creation of universe. And there is not one but many universes.
ReplyDeleteYeah! in this case I would like to agree you, because energy can
ReplyDeleteneither be created nor be destroyed, same as that of the souls. They
can't be created, they only emerge from the infinite source of energy,
i.e., God.
But I would be interested in knowing why creation has no logic? And I
also know that there is not only one universe there are billions of
different universes.
At last, also I need to know that what is "other part"? in which zero
& infinite could be same?
Zero & Infinite - A very good article here http://isha.sadhguru.org/blog//yoga-meditation/demystifying-yoga/zero-an-infinite-possibility/
DeleteDoes God exist - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9GXI_9DXF0
What is God - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ0e8JRu_9U
ok bro! i understand ur feeling!
ReplyDeletethanks!
GOD = cannot be defined, cannot be understood, cannot be seen, only can be known once dissolved into GOD
ReplyDeleteGreat said bro, I appreciate your thinking and also your comment
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